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Onion 03-20-2010 11:36 PM

Wtf you could have called me and we could have hung out for like 4 hours you faggot

Sly 03-21-2010 10:44 PM

Like I'd want to see your fagmo face anyways




actually I tried the number I had in my phone for you and it was some arabian chick that answered

Sly 03-22-2010 12:42 AM

alright so I got the whole rest of the season mapped out and all from this episode you guys said meant nothing

I'm a little high and a little drunk and extremely exhausted but it makes perfect sense in my head so just hear me out

A] smokey didn't kill the people on hydra because he can't pass OVER water only under. hence why there was never pylons set up on hydra before and why the others' sub was always in the pyloned area. and why they whidmore is only setting up pylons around the sub and not really anywhere else.

B] Whidmore is trying to kill everyone and anyone that specifically crashed on the island because they could all be a potential candidate and he knows that jacob is dead so he can't select any new candidates. Whidmore wants both jacob and smokey dead after all the candidate are dead or gone so he can be supreme deity or what have you of the island. Whidmore knows that there is another "dimension" happening in the real world outside of the island "dimension" (more on this later)

C] smokey knew Whidmore was there through some device or maybe even the lighthouse that whidmore was there and killed all the remaining passengers and so he sent sawyer over there to check if he would honor the deal, because I think smokey would rather have sawyer replace him then kate (read on)

D] smokey is turning kate against claire because he wants kate to prove that she is truly a bad person so she can take his place since he has to honor his deal with sawyer.

E] and you might be asking why would smokey honor the deal with sawyer? because smokey is also aware of this alternate "dimension" and also knows that if sawyer and any other returns to the real world they will inevitably run into their alternate selves and boom they die or blow up or just disappear. which is why they are playing so hard on this alternate "dimension"

why smokey wants off the island? I do not know still

Yooxra 03-22-2010 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 71097)
alright so I got the whole rest of the season mapped out and all from this episode you guys said meant nothing

I'm a little high and a little drunk and extremely exhausted but it makes perfect sense in my head so just hear me out

A] smokey didn't kill the people on hydra because he can't pass OVER water only under. hence why there was never pylons set up on hydra before and why the others' sub was always in the pyloned area. and why they whidmore is only setting up pylons around the sub and not really anywhere else.

B] Whidmore is trying to kill everyone and anyone that specifically crashed on the island because they could all be a potential candidate and he knows that jacob is dead so he can't select any new candidates. Whidmore wants both jacob and smokey dead after all the candidate are dead or gone so he can be supreme deity or what have you of the island. Whidmore knows that there is another "dimension" happening in the real world outside of the island "dimension" (more on this later)

C] smokey knew Whidmore was there through some device or maybe even the lighthouse that whidmore was there and killed all the remaining passengers and so he sent sawyer over there to check if he would honor the deal, because I think smokey would rather have sawyer replace him then kate (read on)

D] smokey is turning kate against claire because he wants kate to prove that she is truly a bad person so she can take his place since he has to honor his deal with sawyer.

E] and you might be asking why would smokey honor the deal with sawyer? because smokey is also aware of this alternate "dimension" and also knows that if sawyer and any other returns to the real world they will inevitably run into their alternate selves and boom they die or blow up or just disappear. which is why they are playing so hard on this alternate "dimension"

why smokey wants off the island? I do not know still

Your theories are alittle different than most people on here. Welcome to the lost party.

Onion 03-22-2010 05:52 PM

sly wtf my number hasn't changed 541-550-0232

rursusferre 03-23-2010 08:49 PM

So, this was a pretty good episode. Not the massive story episode they led us to believe, but there were some things about the island and it's point revealed.

Nucholza 03-23-2010 09:20 PM

I'm pretty exhausted right now so this is all I'm gonna say at the time:

Glad they didn't stick with the island being Hell. But maybe its purgatory instead?

How the hell did Isabella's spirit get to the island?

Yooxra 03-23-2010 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Nucholza (Post 71116)
I'm pretty exhausted right now so this is all I'm gonna say at the time:

Glad they didn't stick with the island being Hell. But maybe its purgatory instead?

How the hell did Isabella's spirit get to the island?

We talked about the island being purgatory before and the plot made it all to easy to make smokey the devil and jacob well you know. Not surpising at all. The episode was good, i enjoyed it. Tired, bb tomorrow.

rursusferre 03-23-2010 09:40 PM

No, i dont think its hell or anything like that. For Smokey it is hell in a sense, but I think they kept saying that because they were dealing with a more "primitive" time period. I guess the big thing we learned is that essential, the island is a prison for smokey. That seems to be its underlying purpose, and basically everything that has happened in the show is to make sure he stays there.

Nucholza 03-23-2010 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by rursusferre (Post 71118)
No, i dont think its hell or anything like that. For Smokey it is hell in a sense, but I think they kept saying that because they were dealing with a more "primitive" time period. I guess the big thing we learned is that essential, the island is a prison for smokey. That seems to be its underlying purpose, and basically everything that has happened in the show is to make sure he stays there.

Right, but couldn't that be purgatory still? Purgatory is a place where you wait and be judged for your sins and you either redeem yourself or end up going to hell. Couldn't keeping Smokey from leaving the island be their test? Richard begged the priest for forgiveness for the murder he committed and the priest told him he wouldn't give him absolution and that Richard would have to earn it himself through penance, but that he wouldn't live long enough for that to happen. Then Jacob brings Richard to the island and give him the "gift" of living "forever". Then Isabella shows up and tells Hurley that they have to stop Smokey from leaving or else they'll be going to Hell.


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