(*Lost*)

[Sly]

Originally Posted by Nucholza

it is the lighthouse? at least that's how I see it.

I guess maybe.

[Onion]

Do you think the numbers come from the lighthouse, or do you think they were put there after the numbers were associated with each candidate?

[Nucholza]

Originally Posted by Onion

Do you think the numbers come from the lighthouse, or do you think they were put there after the numbers were associated with each candidate?

I would guess that Jacob put them there. I have a big long theory on the names and crap that I'm way too lazy to type because A) it probably makes no sense outside of my own head and B) it would be a 3 page essay

[Sly]

jacks number in the cave is 23 and it was in the lighthouse so I'm gunna say the lighthouse dictated the candidates and jacob acted on that.

[Nucholza]

Originally Posted by Sly

jacks number in the cave is 23 and it was in the lighthouse so I'm gunna say the lighthouse dictated the candidates and jacob acted on that.

Eh, I dunno about that. If that were the case then when smokey tells Sawyer that Jacob has a thing for numbers it doesn't make as much sense. Makes more sense that Jacob simply assigned them the numbers after they were picked (perhaps they're possible solutions to the Valenzetti Equation) or that Jacob himself chose them and wrote down their names and then assigned them the numbers.

[Sly]

Originally Posted by Nucholza

Eh, I dunno about that. If that were the case then when smokey tells Sawyer that Jacob has a thing for numbers it doesn't make as much sense. Makes more sense that Jacob simply assigned them the numbers after they were picked (perhaps they're possible solutions to the Valenzetti Equation) or that Jacob himself chose them and wrote down their names and then assigned them the numbers.

but wouldn't it make sense that over time the lighthouse showed 360 different people and as jacob brought them to the island or whatever caused them to fail as a candidate they were scratched off. So now that all the candidates are either on the island or have failed everything is coming to an end for jacob and he doesn't care about the mirrors anymore. And maybe "someone" is a higher power then both jacob and smokey and jacob needs to show the work he's done once the final candidate is found? I dunno

[Nucholza]

Originally Posted by Sly

but wouldn't it make sense that over time the lighthouse showed 360 different people and as jacob brought them to the island or whatever caused them to fail as a candidate they were scratched off. So now that all the candidates are either on the island or have failed everything is coming to an end for jacob and he doesn't care about the mirrors anymore. And maybe "someone" is a higher power then both jacob and smokey and jacob needs to show the work he's done once the final candidate is found? I dunno

Well, the lighthouse is a 360 degree dial with one name attached to each degree which points towards that there are exactly 360 predetermined candidates that are going to come to the island in predetermined "clumps" or else the odds of just adding names overtime that *happen* to fit a 360 degree dial is waaaaaaaaay too coincidental for Lost.

Its possible that the dial gets filled up and once all the 360 names are scratched off another 360 are added and who knows what dial they're on. So I think its hard to say that just because the dial is almost all scratched off that things are indefinitely coming to an end.

I'm not sure if there will be a higher power than Jacob/Smokey, but I could see them going that direction. It will be interesting to see who exactly is coming to the island - so many possible directions they could take, but if I had to guess I'd say it will be someone we have never seen before or, a more far out guess, is it will be a boat of kids from the other timeline (Jack's son, samurai guy's kid, claire's baby, Sun's baby, Sawyer's kid)

EDIT: Something else I just thought of that is huge and hasn't been addressed is when Locke/Ben go to visit "jacob" in the cabin when Ben was just talking to no one and then stuff started flying around and later Ben confesses that he had no idea what was going on.

[Nucholza]

So you can see a bunch of names when Hurley is moving the dial and next to 108 is the name "Wallace" and is crossed off. So I guess it will be someone we've never seen before, or at least I can't remember anyone named Wallace. There's also a few other names on the dial that aren't crossed off yet and I have no idea who they belong to. It took a bit to pause it on the right frame, but it looks like number 60 is someone named Kysea and 61 is Davies (or Davzes or Davtes can't really tell) and also 56 looks like it isn't crossed out but can barely make out the name (haasea or haasid something).

And why is Jack's name written in something different from all the other ones?

Also, who is going to be David's father? Will it still be his same ex-wife from the original timeline or will it be someone like Juliet since they're still all connected in the new timeline.

[Yooxra]

Originally Posted by Nucholza

I'm not sure if there will be a higher power than Jacob/Smokey, but I could see them going that direction. It will be interesting to see who exactly is coming to the island - so many possible directions they could take, but if I had to guess I'd say it will be someone we have never seen before or, a more far out guess, is it will be a boat of kids from the other timeline (Jack's son, samurai guy's kid, claire's baby, Sun's baby, Sawyer's kid)

With the child that smokey and some others can see there must be some higher power for the island i'd guess. Remember the skeletons in season 1 with the white and black stones, that was Smokey/Jacob? Smokey says he was a man once. I assume that they came to the island in some similar way in the past. Jacob mostly just seems to give the candidates a push in the direction he wants them to go. He first says that he wants to help "them" get to the island to Hugo, then he tells him it's ok Hugo Jack just needed a push so it was ok he broke the mirrors. So are there more people coming or not? Not sure yet. If there are a "next batch" the kids thing might be possible but doesn't seem to be(i know it's just a random guess). It seems like this batch is almost over and one of them will become the "next Jacob", then maybe another batch will begin "the kids" or something else if that's the direction they go if they were to even go that route. Remember that Jack's number is 23 so he is the Michael Jordan of Lost.

Originally Posted by Gogan

Lostpedia seems to have a pretty comprehensive list of names:

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Candidates

Noticed the names on the dial and they made me wonder more about if Jacob was simply pushing Jack to break the mirrors for more than one purpose. I mean he tells Hugo about giving Jack the nudge he needs, but it seems like more. Haasea, Kysea the two names not crossed out, names are sorta similar. If more people are trying to get to the island maybe they are the people.

Originally Posted by Nucholza

Pretty interesting that just about anyone who is on the island is a candidate.

I'm starting to think that the cave with the names is smokey's list and the lighthouse belongs to Jacob and Jacob doesn't want smokey to use it and that's why he has Jack go there and smash the mirrors.

Might be possible.

So Smokey is recuiting. They say that Sawyer is his first recuit, but notice at the end of the episode that Claire tells Jin that Smokey is her friend. So Jarrah is infected but the darkness that consumes him isn't to his heart yet so he's not "taken over or Smokey's puppet yet?", but Claire is "taken over or Smokey's puppet" due to the darkness reaching her heart long ago? So is Claire a "past recuit or current one" of Smokey's or just one of his minions cause of the whole darkness thing.

I can't wait to see where they go with the whole David part(Jack's son in the flash sideway).

[Gogan]

Lostpedia seems to have a pretty comprehensive list of names:

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Candidates