BSG "The Final"

[Gogan]

"I don't really care about the stats, or the cup or the trophy or anything like that. What matters to me is the perfect throw, making the perfect catch, the perfect step and block. It's perfection. That's what it's about. It's about those moments when you can feel the perfection of creation. The beauty of physics. The wonder of mathematics. The elation of action and reaction, and that's the kind of perfection I wanna be connected to."

[Isogi]

Frak

I posted a rather longish post using the quick reply feature but i am not sure it got approved by whoever mods. anyway i forgot what i said, but the plain bottom line is that i loved it.

Asano thank you for quoting that, that was freaken amazing, the lines that sold me to Battlestar Galactica like 110% was season 3 finale, by lee

Did the defendant make mistakes? Sure, he did. Serious mistakes. But did he actually commit any crimes? Did he commit treason? No. I mean, it was an impossible situation. When the Cylons arrived, what could he possibly do? What could anyone have done? I mean, ask yourself, what would you have done? What would you have done? If he had refused to surrender, the Cylons would've probably nuked the planet right then and there. So did he appear to cooperate with the Cylons? Sure. So did hundreds of others. What's the difference between him and them? The President issued a blanket pardon. They were all forgiven. No questions asked. Colonel Tigh. Colonel Tigh used suicide bombers, killed dozens of people. Forgiven. Lieutenant Agathon and Chief Tyrol. They murdered an officer o*n the Pegasus. Forgiven. The Admiral? The Admiral instituted a military coup d'etat against the President. Forgiven. And me? Well, where do I begin? I shot down a civilian passenger ship, the Olympic Carrier. Over a thousand people o*n board. Forgiven. I raised my weapon to a superior officer, committed an act of mutiny. Forgiven. And then o*n the very day when Baltar surrendered to those Cylons, I, as Commander of Pegasus, jumped away. I left everybody o*n that planet alone, undefended, for months! I even tried to persuade the Admiral never to return. To abandon you all there for good. If I'd had my way, nobody would've made it off that planet. I'm the coward. I'm the traitor. I'm forgiven. I'd say we're very forgiving of mistakes. We make our own laws now, our own justice. We've been pretty creative at finding ways to let people off the hook for everything from theft to murder. And we've had to be. Because... Because we're not a civilization anymore. We are a gang. And we're o*n the run. And we have to fight to survive. We have to break rules. We have to bend laws. We have to improvise. But not this time, no. Not this time. Not for Gaius Baltar. No. You, you have to die. You have to die, because... Well, because we don't like you very much. Because you're arrogant. Because you're weak. Because you're a coward. And we the mob, we want to throw you out the airlock because you didn't stand up to the Cylons, and get yourself killed in the process. That's justice now. You should've been killed back o*n New Caprica, but since you had the temerity to live, we're gonna execute you now. That's justice!

In an age where too much television tries to spoon-feed morality and lessons to us, Battlestar Galactica takes it above all that by trying to get viewers to think. While that sort of television rarely has high initial ratings, it's the sort of thing that can live forever in re-runs as people watch it again to determine its lessons.

The easy way out would have been the fairytale ending that in some ways we all want. The idea that they found a beautiful world, created a city, Kara and Lee live together happily, the fresh air or something like it heals Rosyln and she can build the cabin with Adama, and Hera becomes the leader of this place.

I see no way that in the end the writers of Battlestar Galactica could have written a truly satisfying ending because the themes of their show are themes that we as a race have not yet solved and if they had the answers to all of the questions of battlestar galactica’s moral ambaguities and decided to wait four years to put them out so they would have a great end to a series that would seem a little wrong.

I really enjoyed the ending but i must admit the Kara Thrace thing was uuuum okay. Found an interesting interview about that.

What exactly was Kara, and were people chasing down a rabbit hole when they assumed her father was Daniel, the missing 8th model cylon?

Ron Moore: Daniel is definitely a rabbit hole. It was an unintentional rabbit hole, to be honest. I was kind of surprised when I started picking up [that] speculation online.

For those of you who don’t know, there was a deep part of the cylon backstory that had to do with one of the cylons that was created by the final five [called Daniel. Daniel] was later sort of aborted by Cavill… it was always intended just to be sort of an interesting bit of backstory about Cavill and his jealously. A Cain and Abel sort of allegory. Then people really started grabbing on to it and seizing on it as some major part of the mythology. In couple of interviews and in the last podcast I tried to go out of my way to say “look, don’t spend too much time and energy on this particular theory,” because it was never intended to be that major a piece of the mythology.

David Eick: It’s like Boxey in that way!

Moore: Kara is what you want her to be. It’s easy to put the label on her of “angel” or “messenger of God” or something like that. Kara Thrace died and was resurrected and came back and took the people to their final end. That was her role, her destiny in the show… We debated back and forth in the writers’ room about giving it more clarity and saying definitively what she is. We decided that the more you try to put a name on it, the less interesting it became, and we just decided this was the most interesting way for her to go out, with her just disappearing and [leave people wondering exactly what she was].

Source: http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sc...e-got-answers/